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For instance it advocates using the western order in publications for readers who are not familiar with Japan, such as international conference papers." If you study this section you would see that it would be that the Western Style usually adopted for translation purposes unless otherwise it should be noted, though it is not stated, obviously because of the unspoken reasons I mentioned. As it relates, this is nicely summed up in the last line of the second link I mentioned previously, "As of 2001 the agency's style sheet recommends using a different naming order style depending upon the context. It is also wrong to assume that again for example, since they are on an anime-related page they would understand, since the basis of being an editor is making an article fully understood within the scope of which version of wikipedia it related to. Nevertheless, for instance, Western readers on this Wikipedia, unfamiliar with Japanese culture would refer to a character as family name, given name with the mid-set that because it was published on again, the English Wikipedia, it is in accepted western form. This is the reason you may see tags on articles calling for the rewriting from a general perspective, although this topic is technical in that it is both minor and major depending on which version of wikipedia a reader is familiar with. You must understand, that any version of Wikipedia is meant to be generally standardized for readers unfamiliar with terms. I am not contesting that fact, nor is the rest of Western society.
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TheStickMan 13:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC) With you being of Asian decent I am fully aware that such a naming scheme "family name, given name" would be most natural to you. If you think English naming conventions need to be followed, then I think this is a good time to cite WP:IAR.
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This is true in most of the good articles in Wikipedia on a novel, short story, film, TV show, etc.
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(Perhaps you might find something I only scanned it.) But I don't see how calling them by their given name is more "appropriate." TheStickMan 03:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC) Basically, the point I wanted to make is that in any article on a work of fiction, the characters should be referred to based on how the reader/viewer gets to know the character. The closest thing to a Wiki standard I found was this, but I'm not sure if what is said about real-life figures applies to anime characters. To be fair, I'm not aware of any kind of standard supporting my view, nor will any of the "proof" I bring up be very reliable (since it's just other Wikipedia articles I checked from the Anime WikiProject just to make sure that the edits I was making would be considered acceptable). And the link you are pointing me too is not a Wikipedia standard but just part of an article detailing how Japanese names are read in the western world. KirtZJ 02:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC) Being of Asian descent (Chinese, not Japanese, but similar standards nonetheless), I am aware of name ordering. Generally, it is appropriate on the English Wikipedia to use first names of characters from Japanese media regardless of how they are referred to in said media types. I would draw your attention to Japanese name#Japanese names in English which explains this in detail. The Japanese language typically writes a person's surname before their given name, however this is reversed in western English. The system is actually fairly strict, it's just most English Wikipedians do not realize this due them not knowing about it. TheStickMan 00:24, 20 March 2013 (UTC) "I don't really understand why we need to follow an English naming convention, especially one that isn't really that strict in the first place."- Because if Wikipedia wasn't held up to a high standard then the actually quality of entries wouldn't be great at all. I don't really understand why we need to follow an English naming convention, especially one that isn't really that strict in the first place. You get Gatsby in The Great Gatsby as opposed to Jay, or Kane in Citizen Kane as opposed to Charles. Last names work if that is what a character is most often called in whatever work it is, and it even makes things less confusing sometimes. I'm about 75% sure that there isn't a standard for English summaries that requires characters to be referred to by their first names in a fictional work.